On the recordFebruary 5, 2025
He is a smart dude. He is a smart dude, and he is a serious guy and actually knows the government. I mean part of the problem with the DOGE folks is they don't really know what they are even looking for. So they literally just, like, ``Control F.'' Oh, does it say ``gender''? Maybe this is bad; maybe this is woke. That is terrible and irresponsible, but it is also incompetent. But Russ Vought is not incompetent. He has an actual project, not just Project 2025. But he has been like this for a while. He has a view of the government, which is that the bigger the government is, the less freedom you have. And Ben Sasse, our old friend and colleague who is now retired from the Senate, he had that sincere view, right? And it was a kind of radical view. But it was sincerely held that--I mean, I would go to him and go: What about rural health clinics? And, like, he was consistent--nope--right? What about Federal firefighters? Counties can take care of that, right? I don't want to characterize all of Ben's views, but--what about the Federal Emergency Management Agency? Nope, we have got to get rid of that. And FEMA is a really good example of--there are just some things that, if you are going to have a country, that your Federal Government has to do, because I think of two examples: When the town of Lahaina burned down, the County of Maui is kind of small. It is a couple hundred thousand people. It is not a poor county.…





