Brian Schatz actually said...

"Right. But it's not trivial to--and I understand you're giving me a specific example, but it's, sort of, not trivial at all that we're sitting here not clear whether we need changes in the law or not ..."

"Who owns the intellectual property?"

"But this would be the Land Use Commission requiring or the Department of Planning and Permitting do these?"

"We both served on the Board of Directors for the Center for a Sustainable Future."