Brian Schatz actually said...

What we have to offer are, as you say, values, right, and relationships.

I would like you to talk through how, attitudinally, we are shifting, and not just throwing another, say, $80 million at the problem.

the less precipitous, but just as bad scenario, is saltwater inundation of the freshwater systems.

The political attractiveness of 30 by 30 is useful, but it is useless unless it is followed up well.