08/22/2022
https://transcripts.cnn.com...
"So if you think our debt is in the 30s, how much debt--either or both of you--what can we have?"
"The Federal debt is in the 30s of trillions."
"The deficit last year was $2.8 billion, and the collections this last year was $4 trillion."
"What do you think our deficit is going to be this year?"