I would object to the proposition that the House of Representatives has to outsource our thinking on the cluster munitions question to Ukraine. When did we substitute their judgment for ours? I think that this notion that they are essential to warfighting is belied by the actual casualty numbers. If you believe that 95 percent of the people killed were children, not enemy combatants, which is what The New York Times is telling us, then I think that adoption of the amendment is appropriate. We should not be in a race to the bottom for the weapons systems that are the least discriminate and most harmful to people who are not engaged in warfare. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
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