05/16/2022
https://www.congress.gov...
"right now there is no process"
"If it’s real negotiations, and we’re not there yet, but if that were to happen, Ukraine will have to be involved."
"If it’s real negotiations... Ukraine will have to be involved because they’re the one that were invaded."
"Now, if someone has a better plan – and we hope they do, now's the time to present it."