03/12/2025
https://www.nbcnews.com...
"If we deny it, they're still going to keep doing what they're doing."
"We are talking about detention, and frankly in my view, the torture, humiliation, and abuse of hundreds of thousands of people."
"I want to start with the first one. You know, let me just make sort of an editorial comment at the front end."
"It is a mistake to think that staying silent on human rights in China is a neutral act."