John Rutherford actually said...

I think a lot of people misunderstand.

I was a little concerned to see that this program wasn't funded in this budget and that it had been zeroed out.

I would just like to see a more modernized--I mean, we have some steam engines that are still out there.

But I would like to ask you and Mr. Bramble... one of the principles that you also profess is that government should not pick winners and lo...