John Mica: “this program would spend out at only 2.4 percent. They were dead wrong; it spent out at 64 percent.”

It is the process. We have set up a system where nobody gets fired.

What kind of message does it send when they actually get elevated?

It was absolutely appalling to see what took place in some of these instances, and it also to me is disgraceful that the Federal Government could be a partner into the abuse of women and employees and others and let them be subject to this…

I assure you, Mr. Evans, it will have repercussions up here among your allies and your partners.