John Mica: “You go after people, and you have tough enforcement, and you curtail the bastards, pardon my French, and stop them.”

But where are we? Do you know? Maybe Mr. Wiedefeld can tell me.

Again, if you don't have communication, I mean, when they couldn't communicate--and we held funds up a couple of times. I think I participated in that to get your attention.

We have pilots that are flying planes. We don't know who they are.

We tried to get them to comply, but they never did fully comply.