John Mica: “Well, Mr. Werfel, you've heard of Willie Sutton, haven't you? The famous bank robber.”

I think it will save money and actually benefit projects that start with non-Federal dollars and can be a great advantage to some of those ports and other waterways that are at a disadvantage because of the distance of the project. So I…

We tried to get them to comply, but they never did fully comply.

But where are we? Do you know? Maybe Mr. Wiedefeld can tell me.

Okay. So you're about 5 percent. So the smoke--maybe this site that I cited that you can go on and see if Metro's on fire can be taken down pretty soon.