John Mica: “But you are still developing tools to evaluate all of this...”

Again, if you don't have communication, I mean, when they couldn't communicate--and we held funds up a couple of times. I think I participated in that to get your attention.

We have pilots that are flying planes. We don't know who they are.

Fifteen years later, we see a system that has not complied with the laws that we have passed multiple times.

We tried to get them to comply, but they never did fully comply.