John Mica: “That is the end results in providing the IT services, but when you have, okay, let's go back to Powner is telling me…”

We have pilots that are flying planes. We don't know who they are.

Fifteen years later, we see a system that has not complied with the laws that we have passed multiple times.

But where are we? Do you know? Maybe Mr. Wiedefeld can tell me.

This isn't very glamorous. But just look at the progress we've made.