12/03/2012
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"We could stop that loss, couldn't we? Eighty-five million dollars in loss."
"So maybe you could supply the committee with some information on the savings and elimination of the programs at a time when we are trying to save money."
"We could eliminate food service. Do you think anyone would starve between here and New York?"
"We have $3 billion in annual expenditures for IT in your Department and we have 400 information systems; some duplicative, some archaic, some obsolete."