12/05/2011
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"But that being said, it sounds like the penalties, they have gone overboard with the penalties."
"I am always quoted as saying, one of my favorite sayings to folks is don't assume members of Congress know anything, start from that proposition."
"Well, maybe this will spark or be the genesis for looking at the law itself."
"Maybe we need to go back and look at your agency."