John Mica: “If the Federal Government gets involved, the project takes three times as long and costs three times as much.”

I think it will save money and actually benefit projects that start with non-Federal dollars and can be a great advantage to some of those ports and other waterways that are at a disadvantage because of the distance of the project. So I…

I assure you, Mr. Evans, it will have repercussions up here among your allies and your partners.

We tried to get them to comply, but they never did fully comply.

Okay. So you're about 5 percent. So the smoke--maybe this site that I cited that you can go on and see if Metro's on fire can be taken down pretty soon.