John Mica: “If I was losing 25 percent in improper payments, I would have someone come in and give me an analysis.”

Sounds like you're doing pretty well on this.

It is the process. We have set up a system where nobody gets fired.

We have got a few rotten apples in the barrel, and they are still in the barrel, and to me it is disgraceful that we haven't fixed the system that allows you to do your duty to clear the deck of people who need to be fired, removed, and…

But where are we? Do you know? Maybe Mr. Wiedefeld can tell me.