John Mica: “Amtrak subsidies, whether it is for capital or operation are not manna from heaven, they are actually dollars out of the…”

Okay. So you're about 5 percent. So the smoke--maybe this site that I cited that you can go on and see if Metro's on fire can be taken down pretty soon.

Again, if you don't have communication, I mean, when they couldn't communicate--and we held funds up a couple of times. I think I participated in that to get your attention.

We tried to get them to comply, but they never did fully comply.

We have pilots that are flying planes. We don't know who they are.