E. Clay Shaw, Jr.: “What you are asking, you are adding up, just taking aid to families with dependent children.”

When you add to it the other benefits, it is certainly above minimum wage. Minimum wage in this country is only about $8,800 a year. Now we are competing and having the people on welfare getting a total package without housing of $12,000 a…

If she cannot find a job, we will get one for her. We need more child care, we need cleaning up at the housing projects, we need these things. All we require is that after that 2 years she is going to work for these benefits.

Ms. Norton, am I correct in saying that what you are talking about is the biggest tax increase in the history of this country?

You are so right. And do you know how we get that money, because it does cost money? We say that this is only available to citizens of the United States, and people who are here as political refugees or people over 70 years old. And we…