12/09/2019
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"And I understand, given that your goal is one program--are you analyzing which program, ultimately, would be phased out?"
"And you don't qualify for an exemption in the hiring freeze policy?"
"I would suggest to all my colleagues on the committee that if there is a place that cries out for an exemption if this hiring freeze is going to continue, it would be the OIG at the VA."
"Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman, for yielding, and I appreciate you agreeing to hold this important public witness hearing."