06/09/2010
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"It has been suggested that NASA have a DARPA for these advanced projects. Do you think that would allow more entrepreneurial activity?"
"There has been enormous collateral damage in the rest of the human spaceflight program as a result."
"That has been--endured a number of different shocks to the system."
"The Augustine Commission is saying that we're basically flat if we don't get $3 billion more a year for NASA for the human spaceflight program; $30 billion over 10 years."