Ron Klain: “The contrast, the gap between what Joe Biden and the Democrats are fighting for, what Donald Trump and the MAGA…”

He views them as very responsible efforts to get to the bottom of a real threat to our democracy. So the hearings Congress is holding, I think is part of what should be a national reexamination of whether or not this country is dedicated…

I think what people need to look at is the choice between what the President -- what congressional Democrats have done are doing, and what Republicans are talking about this season.

I think the president had won the nomination fair and square. 14 million people went and voted for him and the vice president as vice president.

So I don't think rallies have proved effective for candidates in the midterms. And so we're trying something different that we think will be effective.