Neal Katyal: “You defy a congressional vote like that when they say we need this evidence, and you say no? Of course you deserve that.”

I think that this really almost forces Merrick Garland, given what the Court of Appeal said last week, to do -- to indict Donald Trump there say -- the Court of Appeals saying, this is really serious, there's no abuse of rights.

I think it’s very hard for Merrick Garland at this point, not to indict Donald Trump in federal court. He is, you know, looks like the evidence shows. He’s committed really serious, incredibly serious crimes, and the rulebook kind of…

Delay is the name of this game, and they know the prospects before the Court of Appeals are quite weak.

The board is the easy case.