James Clapper actually said...

I think undermining his secretary of state, undercutting him particularly with respect to North Korea. And creating a binary choice where it...

What their most concerned with is face and leverage and recognition of their status as a nuclear power.

I do think that is -- I won't say the only channel, but I think it's the most promising would be a direct dialogue with the North Koreans.

They want to be seen as part of that club.