David Shulkin: “We're trying to make the best decision for, exactly as you're saying, the veterans and the taxpayers, and everything's…”

Since April of 2017, I think this is a very much better environment for our veterans.

We need to be doing more of this in alternatives.

As you know, coming from a provider background, I strongly believe people deserve to get paid when they deliver a service, and we have failed many of our providers in terms of that.

I do believe that our unions are productive partners with us, and I do really appreciate the collaboration that we have because I believe that they care about getting the right services to Veterans.