David Shulkin: “We have to look at the 40-mile rule and the 30-day rule and make them better rules for the veteran.”

I wasn't willing to do that. I don't think that's the right thing for veterans and I stood up against them.

I think the way the findings were used -- were used in a political way. Not by the inspector general, but by the political appointees within V.A.

I believe strongly, Anderson, that when it comes to V.A. and national security, we can't make this a political issue.

But like any business, the times change, the needs change and it's time for us to look at how we operate our networks differently to get the type of accountability that's needed to make sure we don't see the failures that we saw here in…