05/05/2020
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"I think it is important to note that it seems to me anyway that USDA is aggressively encouraging the Chinese to seek equivalency determination for the slaughter operations."
"Mandatory recall, Mr. Secretary."
"I for one do not understand why FSIS is exempted from this particularly, as I see, it comes out of the recommendation of a group that is moving this initiative forward."
"I strongly support HACCP. I do. But I think that we have gone too far in removing FSIS inspectors from the active role they had prior to HACCP."