09/21/2009
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"So, to us, as a leadership issue. We focus on operational stress control and management."
"I think the stigma issue is one that's going to be very, very difficult to overcome."
"I appreciate that, and I stress it again because as you know, anytime anything happens there are immediate investigations done by the media, by Congress, and by the agency itself."
"I hope you will push that envelope a little bit, at least to explore it."