Joseph Lieberman actually said...

Defense contracts ought to be done on a fixed-price basis unless the Secretary certifies that there's a good reason not to.

Mr. Sullivan and Dr. Gansler, what are your recommendations for effectively balancing the requirement validation process with the calendar-d...

I think, clearly, for research-and-development-type activities, cost-plus is an appropriate way to do it.

Good. Get it for the record, please.