Chris Murphy actually said...

We've seen an increase across the country in emergency room visits for opioid overdoses by 30 percent.

But you are saying that even though they have to pay that money back, you don't consider that a state contribution. I just don't understand ...

So given the fact that a TIFIA loan has never defaulted, that a state has never not repaid the Federal Government.

I think it would be a mistake if we left this hearing viewing Lebanon through the prism of 'a problem child.'