If you have a school where people have universal agreement that they're there to teach the kids, but also to perfect their craft as teachers, you have a fighting chance.

Can I come back, Dr. Koerner, to something you mentioned earlier, because I think it was such an incredibly important point.

In this school, we learn from our mistakes.

To me, the fact that we're going to have to replace almost 2 million teachers in the next decade is at least of national interest.

the idea that any teacher is prepared to be an effective teacher when she walks out of any school of higher education, I think, is crazy.

we should be asking ourselves, both in terms of the ESEA reauthorization and the Higher Ed reauthorization--which, in my mind, shouldn't be two separate things, but there's nothing we can do about that.

It's almost 2 million. I think 1.7 million teachers we have to replace.

Let's rest there for a minute. That's a very, very important point to me, because I've seen the same thing that you've seen.

We would accelerate the benefits for our children if we do that, and if we don't, we won't, because we'll be here a decade from now having this same conversation.

Title II of the HEA can be an effective vehicle for this goal.

I want to thank you, and, Mr. Chairman, I want to thank you, because your leadership in including this really has made a material difference.