Cory Gardner actually said...

In my conversations last month in both Japan and South Korea, talking to the foreign ministry in Japan and to President Park in Seoul, talki...

I think a full engagement, a full court press, dealing with the nuclear issue, dealing with economic issues, both with carrots and sticks.

We have not found the formula that deters the North Koreans from expanding their weapons programs.

I think we do have to include the human rights conditions and the acts in North Korea as part of these discussions.