12/13/2022
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"Why should taxpayers have to shell out for your salary and for the costs of pollution? Why shouldn't the companies bear that themselves?"
"That's not a question, Mr. Macchiarola. That's a fact."
"You don't think they use any of that Federal money to pay your salary to come lobby us to keep the rules in their favor?"
"The evidence is clear, we subsidize--we taxpayers subsidize the oil and gas industry."