The United States is the second largest market for ivory, much of which is sold here illegally.

I can confirm that we are second, Mr. Dreher. I can confirm that.

We crushed that ivory to send a very clear signal that the ivory was not meant to be seen as items of value.

I believe that we are the market for ivory. The United States ranks second in the world in terms of a market for ivory that is sold.

We can also attempt to send a message that commercialization of wildlife that leads to its extinction is not acceptable.

They are killing elephants because they see them as sources of money, and if we can take the money out of the equation, they will stop killing elephants.

There is a real problem in Japan. Forty percent of the world's ivory is being consumed in Japan for the hanko, their signature stamp.

You should look on the market demand side. You should see who is making the money, follow the money, chase the money.

It seems to me that what we all have in agreement and the core fundamental issue is that we are here to talk about the sustainability of the population of elephants, especially African elephants.

With all due respect, I think this bill clarifies, it doesn't further confuse.

if we go down this road, we may be solving a problem that doesn't exist.