Paul Gosar actually said...

Isn't a lot of the underfunding fire borrowing, because you've seen its advent since you've been in the Forest Service, these huge catastrop...

So what we did is we sued on behalf of a group--and they were named earlier on.

what you're doing is you're locking people out of their livelihood. And what's going to happen, we're going to have a gunfight; someone's go...

you either manage it or it manages you.