Jon Kyl: “Why don't I explain it, and then the Senator from Illinois won't have to keep asking questions about what it actually…”

“Why don't I explain it, and then the Senator from Illinois won't have to keep asking questions about what it actually does. There are four different sections. One of them has to do with the removal of people where there has been a formal proceeding and the alien has been detained. That is section 238. There are probably about 20,000--well, probably more than that, but there is at least a minimum of 20,000 because many of those are other than Mexicans. We do not have the number for people, for example, who would be Mexican citizens. There are also formal proceedings before an immigration judge. This number of absconders is far greater. That is section 240. There are a lot more in that category, perhaps 200,000 to 300,000 people.”