Jon Kyl: “Exactly so. And that is where we need your advice.”

Our responsibility is to be straightforward with you all. You're the ones that appointed us, you're the ones that we answer to.

That's why we say that has to be decided now.

It's enough that it's opportunistic. In other words, we're in a conflict with one, and the other sees that this is an opportunity.

Mr. Chairman, Representative Jacobs, the fact is that our current system has deteriorated and aged to the point that we wouldn't be confident in the deterrent value of it on out into the future.