03/09/2009
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"It is essential for a whole host of reasons that a facility for the safe use of fire arms be provided."
"12 years is a long time, Mr. Chairman, and everybody, with the exception of the Native American tribes, are in support and we will try to continue to work with them."
"So the answer is no?"
"There have to be consequences, positive for good performance and negative for not good or not acceptable performance."