John McCain actually said...

I find that kind of thing absolutely unacceptable.

We're not trying to get rid of the benefit, we're not trying to get rid of the commissary in their locations. We're trying to reduce the tax...

I guess I have two questions. One, isn't that a fundamental requirement if--for reform? And how do we get it?

Mr. Chairman, we have got to come to an agreement on the definitions and the baseline.