Jim Kolbe: “Mr. Chairman, I would be quite brief here and if there are no other speakers on this, I would make my point of order at…”

“Mr. Chairman, I would be quite brief here and if there are no other speakers on this, I would make my point of order at the end. I would make the point to the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Kaptur), first of all, for whom I have a great deal of respect for and particularly admire the commitment she has made to the democracy in the Ukraine and the support for freedom and democracy in that struggling country, I would make the following point to her, that although there is a specific earmark in our bill for programs in Russia, that is because we believe very strongly in the struggling democracy programs there that need to have very specific support. There is not, and I will just say that the gentlewoman's chart is in error, there is not a zero amount for Ukraine. There is an amount for the former Soviet Republics, for Eastern Europe. We just do not earmark a specific amount for the Ukraine as we do not earmark for other countries.”