02/15/2021
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"Now, when you look at where we have come from, the $10 trillion to $20 trillion, that is a huge deficit increase--or huge debt increase, and no one gets a pat on the back for that."
"I concur with the chairman, and I have an enormous amount of respect for the ranking member."
"So only in Washington and only from the Office of Management and Budget could we see the gross Federal debt go from $19 trillion today to... even with $3 trillion worth of tax increases, $26 trillion ..."
"I am glad you mentioned health care, because I agree with you that it is the principal driver of the deficits and the debt."