John Boozman actually said...

"I think that's helpful. I mean, as you said, Ms. Abernathy, there are people that genuinely benefit from the program."

"Should the States have the right to use the narrative approach, which also can work, if they choose to do that?"

"It seems like collaboration exists as long as the State does what you wish it to do."

"I think the reality is that a lot of States don't want to go that direction."