John Boozman actually said...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We appreciate you and Senator Carper for holding such an important hearing.

So we are really kind of in a Catch-22 situation, as you mentioned.

Affordability has to be one of the primary factors when considering when you are funding a project in this country.

So it is very important that we all work as a partnership and make sure that we can deliver our foods and our fiber to the urban area.