On the recordSeptember 18, 1998
It's here on the tape, the first chapter. [Laughter] [Board member Robert Thomas praised the contributions of President's Race Initiative Executive Director Judith A. Winston and Board consultants Christopher Edley and Laura Harris. Emphasizing the importance of education, he joked that without ``something big, huge, tremendous, way beyond the norm, we'll just be perfuming the pig.'']
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