Bill Clinton: “We did not discuss it. And the Ames case has not interfered with it inasmuch as the Pollard case is already in the hands…”

I thought he was a good president.

We are happy. We felt like a load's off our shoulders.

Keeping everyone engaged until the agreement was reached

They're going to try to rig the rules away, you know, so it hurt us and there's been some new innovative efforts in that regard, trying to rig the rules away from it. But you did well. We won in 2020.