05/15/2013
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"Mr. Secretary, as we think of Pell grants, do we not have to think of them in the overall budget process of the Department of Education?"
"But they are not the only part of the education part."
"However, our Nation is $14 trillion in debt, and I think we must rein in spending."
"That would herald, if it were approved by FDA--It's in clinical trials now."