03/23/2009
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"I would have trouble, Madam Chairwoman, supporting a budget that is poised to eliminate a real manned space program, and instead maintains the fantasy of one."
"We may be the leader in manned space flight today, but the eventual ramifications of this budget, as I understand it, has the potential to ensure that this lead will end, perhaps forever."
"You're still committed to Ares-V, aren't you?"
"You have to have that type of a vehicle, yes sir."