Richard Clarke: “He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never…”

If societies can offer people an alternative pathway, employment perhaps, meaningful life, education, a chance to move up, you're not going to see as much of this.

I think it is. I think Al-Maliki, despite all of our warnings and all of our efforts to reach out to the Sunnis and the Kurds, to have a real government of national reconciliation and he's consistently refused and been aggressively going…

The people who become terrorists in Europe are not refugees. They're not people who have been born in the Middle East and come here. They are people who are disaffected citizens of their own country, the country of their birth.

I think we both know we need them and they need us. It's become a very strange codependency.