Mike Rogers actually said...

I have been an advocate for the center to try to package more of that training and take it out in increments.

I am very opposed to that. This has become a well-organized Department.

I still think it is too few. I think we should be over 20,000, but we hit that goal.

Clearly, it would show that this is not the right place to place that money. They've wasted a lot of it already. And it's -- we're just wast...