Mike Rogers actually said...

I am very opposed to that. This has become a well-organized Department.

I have been an advocate for the center to try to package more of that training and take it out in increments.

Clearly, it would show that this is not the right place to place that money. They've wasted a lot of it already. And it's -- we're just wast...

This is old in the 1950s war style 'Soprano' type politics, that, you know, you go along to get along and you don't talk about these things ...